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		<title>By: Velodramatic</title>
		<link>http://www.velodramatic.com/archives/55#comment-2420</link>
		<dc:creator>Velodramatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,

Rapha was actually very clear about the use of a pad from Nalini, and this was reported and reviewed throughout the cycling press.

see
&lt;a href="http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/article/mps/uan/2767" rel="nofollow"&gt;RoadCyclingUK's review of Rapha Bibs&lt;/a&gt;

also
&lt;a href="http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/clothing/shorts/product/bib-short-17161" rel="nofollow"&gt; BikeRadar's Review&lt;/a&gt;

also
&lt;a href="http://www.rapha.cc/content/summer_new_products.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt; Rapha's site circa 2006&lt;/a&gt;


You'll be happy to read that at least the RoadCyclingUK review agreed with you and preferred the Nalini pad to the Cytech. As I hope I made clear, I own and ride with both versions of the Rapha shorts and prefer the Cytech-padded one. Everymans' bum is different.

Not sure how in reading the piece you got any notion the shorts were defective. 

I'm sure my wife would have a problem with the wash cloth idea ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,</p>
<p>Rapha was actually very clear about the use of a pad from Nalini, and this was reported and reviewed throughout the cycling press.</p>
<p>see<br />
<a href="http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/article/mps/uan/2767" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.roadcyclinguk.com');">RoadCyclingUK&#8217;s review of Rapha Bibs</a></p>
<p>also<br />
<a href="http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/clothing/shorts/product/bib-short-17161" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.bikeradar.com');"> BikeRadar&#8217;s Review</a></p>
<p>also<br />
<a href="http://www.rapha.cc/content/summer_new_products.htm" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.rapha.cc');"> Rapha&#8217;s site circa 2006</a></p>
<p>You&#8217;ll be happy to read that at least the RoadCyclingUK review agreed with you and preferred the Nalini pad to the Cytech. As I hope I made clear, I own and ride with both versions of the Rapha shorts and prefer the Cytech-padded one. Everymans&#8217; bum is different.</p>
<p>Not sure how in reading the piece you got any notion the shorts were defective. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure my wife would have a problem with the wash cloth idea <img src='http://www.velodramatic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.velodramatic.com/archives/55#comment-2419</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;del datetime="2008-10-08T15:38:02+00:00"&gt;Mark&lt;/del&gt;Michael,
I think you are confused.  Nalini does not make chamois for other manufacturers.
Nalini makes their own chamois for their products.  If you received a &lt;del datetime="2008-10-08T15:38:02+00:00"&gt;Rafa&lt;/del&gt;Rapha short with a defective chamois I suggest you return it to RAPHA.

Please be aware the Cytech or La Fonte "Pads" are a Knit or woven fabric which by nature &lt;del datetime="2008-10-08T15:38:02+00:00"&gt;products&lt;/del&gt;produces excess heat.  Friction creates heat.  The more material you have the more friction is created. Other manufacturer chooses to purchase the less expensive woven or knit fabric pads.  Nalini produces a synthetic leather or actual chamois.  Synthetic leather is more expensive to produce and is a better conductor of heat.  Nalini produces 100% of its products with no subcontract work.  

Most manufacturers subcontract work to other vendors.  In short, they do not make shorts they sell you a name.....Save yourself some money and put a bathroom wash cloth in your shorts.  It will probably work and conduct heat better.

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><del datetime="2008-10-08T15:38:02+00:00">Mark</del>Michael,<br />
I think you are confused.  Nalini does not make chamois for other manufacturers.<br />
Nalini makes their own chamois for their products.  If you received a <del datetime="2008-10-08T15:38:02+00:00">Rafa</del>Rapha short with a defective chamois I suggest you return it to RAPHA.</p>
<p>Please be aware the Cytech or La Fonte &#8220;Pads&#8221; are a Knit or woven fabric which by nature <del datetime="2008-10-08T15:38:02+00:00">products</del>produces excess heat.  Friction creates heat.  The more material you have the more friction is created. Other manufacturer chooses to purchase the less expensive woven or knit fabric pads.  Nalini produces a synthetic leather or actual chamois.  Synthetic leather is more expensive to produce and is a better conductor of heat.  Nalini produces 100% of its products with no subcontract work.  </p>
<p>Most manufacturers subcontract work to other vendors.  In short, they do not make shorts they sell you a name&#8230;..Save yourself some money and put a bathroom wash cloth in your shorts.  It will probably work and conduct heat better.</p>
<p>Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Velodramatic</title>
		<link>http://www.velodramatic.com/archives/55#comment-1674</link>
		<dc:creator>Velodramatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

I think the Cytech is a better pad. If you can return them for the 2008 bibs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>I think the Cytech is a better pad. If you can return them for the 2008 bibs</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.velodramatic.com/archives/55#comment-1670</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received the Rapha's with the Nalini pad, but thought I was getting the newer Cytech pad model.  Having ridden both would you recommend returning the Nalini version and waiting on the newer Cytech version?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the Rapha&#8217;s with the Nalini pad, but thought I was getting the newer Cytech pad model.  Having ridden both would you recommend returning the Nalini version and waiting on the newer Cytech version?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention - base layers can make laundry easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention - base layers can make laundry easier.</p>
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