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		<title>Portland &#8211; A Vanilla Day in the River City with twmp</title>
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<p>Given that we’re normally separated by 5,000 miles of real estate and a rather large pond I couldn’t miss the chance to visit with Brian Palmer of the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thewashingmachinepost.net/">washingmachinepost</a> during his week long pilgrimage to Portland (<em>and he’d be the first to call it that</em>). A 6:00 am flight Tuesday got me to Stumptown in plenty of time for breakfast and a chat before we set out for a full day of cultural exploration and cycling excess. Brian may be a slender thistle blowing in the breezes of Islay (I-la) but he got stuck into a bowl of oatmeal and a full stack of banana pancakes like Jens Voigt on a solo breakaway.</p>

<p>He didn't manage all the pancakes but I can report that Brian is as engaging and cheery in person as he seems in pixels, maybe more so. He freely admits that if talking were an Olympic event he’d be in medal contention, but that stood us in good stead throughout a day filled with builders and bike shops. The boxing fans among you would appreciate our compubox numbers (<em>total words not punches thrown mind you</em>)</p>

<p>Before we left the hotel Brian showed me the fetching <a href="http://cielo.chrisking.com/">Chris King Cielo</a> he's riding this week. This is the Portland equivalent of having a car and driver at your disposal during your stay. Nicely appointed with Campy levers, FSA cranks and the requisite CK finery we left it idling in the room while we went off to rendevous with Sacha White at <a rel="nofollow" href="http://vanillabicycles.com/">Vanilla Bicycles</a>.</p>

<img src="http://images.velodramatic.com/portland09/portland-3.jpg" width="550" height="367" alt="Sacha White in conversation with Brian" style="display:block; border:none; margin-bottom:10px !important;" />

<p>To a Portland native the network of one-way streets in their town is probably as natural as a Danny MacAskill trackstand on a lampost. We found it just a wee bit harder to find our way around. As it turned out Sacha's shop was the easiest reconnaissance of the day. We arrived mid morning, slid back the blue and vanilla bean painted door and stepped into Mr. White's world. Though Brian had emailed Sacha to say we'd be coming through, somehow Sacha thought we'd be coming the day the email had been sent. Our unexpected arrival caused barely a ripple and though both he and Scott were involved in "real work" they graciously spent 90 minutes with us talking about framebuilding, family, balance, photography, and business in no particular order.</p>

<h4>The Spark at Vanilla Burns Bright</h4>
<p>While Brian chatted with Scott, I photographed Sacha as he lit a surgically-thin torch and began brazing the joints of the latest Vanilla. Purposefully, delicately he kept the torch in constant motion as we talked, heating the surfaces to be mated, exciting the steel to the point where it was receptive to the solder he chased into the precisely cut joints. </p>

<img src="http://images.velodramatic.com/portland09/portland-2.jpg" width="550" height="825" alt="Sacha brazing a Vanilla Frame" style="display:block; border:none; margin-bottom:10px !important;" />

<img src="http://images.velodramatic.com/portland09/portland-4.jpg" width="550" height="825" alt="Brian asking questions" style="display:block; border:none; margin-bottom:10px !important;" />

<p>Forty or fifty hours later one very happy customer will congratulate himself for having had the foresight and patience to take a number and get in line for a one-of-a-kind cross bike. Even at this early stage the frame looked fast. The scale was perfect, this looked to be in the 52"-54" neighborhood (<em>just my size</em>) and to my eye smaller frames always look more proportional. The tube shapes were dynamic, the underside of the top tube subtley curving and flattening in its final approach to the seat tube; the better to accomodate a racer's shoulder. Up front, the downtube ovalized on it's way to the bottom bracket, while the muscle-back chain stays wishboned to their appointment with the rear dropouts. "Where do I sign up"</p>

<h4>There are Some Joints that Can't be Mitred</h4>
<p>With a wild tossle of hair swept off his face, Sacha looks like a cross between a young Russell Crowe and Eddie Vedder, with a Matthew McConoughey twinkle in his eyes when an idea resonates. Ten years in he's still focused on the horizon, testing his creative boundaries. This stands in contrast to another master like Richard Sachs who's progressed, it seems based on what I've read, to an inner quest to refine and perfect "a bike" which he's taken half a lifetime to find. Both ends of the creative spectrum are fascinating and valid.</p>

<p>As a visual designer/photographer I recognize there are different paths to artistry, and while there is a middle ground it seems the truly gifted pursue a dream at the extremes. It will be interesting to see where Vanilla ultimately takes White.</p>

<img src="http://images.velodramatic.com/portland09/portland-5.jpg" width="550" height="825" alt="Marking the seatstays" style="display:block; border:none; margin-bottom:10px !important;" />

<img src="http://images.velodramatic.com/portland09/portland-6.jpg" width="550" height="367" alt="Scott meticulously sanding a Vanilla stem" style="display:block; border:none; margin-bottom:10px !important;" />

<p>For now it's a delicate balance. Sacha has three women in his life; a wife and two young daughters. There's still the odd late night but he seems to have found a pace that's sustainable, and livable. Faced with a choice between "his girls" and his art, he wouldn't like it, but his family would come first. This wisdom is hard won and so many artists never find it. His bikes will be better for that balance.</p>

<p>With a snap, the flame went out – whereupon he inspected the frame and seemed pleased with the progress. He moved on to the tubes that will become the seatstays and set about bending them against a shaping form.</p>

<h4>Along for the Ride</h4>
<p>Five years from now the curves may be different and customers have to respect that. The best Vanilla will always be the next one and clients sign up knowing they're along for the ride. If it were me, I wouldn't have it any other way.</p>

<p>Brian joined in the conversation, with thoughtful questions about Portland builder culture, competition and cooperation. There's a level of insight there that isn't for publication, simply because twmp celebrates the positive side of cycling. He knows much more than he lets on (<em>and that's frightening considering how much ground he covers</em>). </p>

<p>Brian took over with Sacha all the while shooting with his Flip video cam. You can see the great results on twmp, it will be up by the time this piece hits the streets. I took the opportunity to watch Scott finessing a signature Vanilla stem and we talked cameras and lenses. Clearly they make a good team. Scott explained his obsession with the tiniest of pits in the metal would pay dividends later in their paint shop. There are no shortcuts here. </p>

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<p>A friend arrived and Scott broke away to retape his bars so Brian and I watched Sacha carefully mark up the seatstay ends with marker, then handcut the slots quickly and cleanly with a hacksaw. That was skilled but the filing that followed was magic. The tool was sharp and every two or three strokes with the file, he rhythmically tapped his vise to keep it cutting clean. When he test slotted his signature V dropouts into the stay and the seam between the pieces melted away we smiled and figured we should say our goodbyes before we dropped to our knees and embarassed the man. Sweet Chocolate Christ (<em>or in this case make it Vanilla</em>) </p>

<p>We tumbled out on to the street like two schoolboys who'd just seen a girl's bum. "Did you see that"</p>

<h4>Getting Lost is Easy Without Your Garmin</h4>

<p>The original plan was to head over to Showers Pass in the afternoon but Brian hadn't heard back from them. Pity. We spotted some of the expanded SP line later at River City and were particularly impressed with the stylish Portland jacket. Instead we decided to see a bit more of the city, find lunch and make alternate plans on the way.</p>

<p>Before long we'd parked and set off on foot for a look see. Within a block we spotted the Bike Gallery on 10th and in we went. Nice shop and a very friendly staff struck up conversations with us. Before long we were swapping stories and asking questions of half the staff – Store Manager Joan Martocello joined in. With our stomachs protesting the delay in feeding we got food suggestions and a dead reckoning to Molly Cameron's Veloshop on 9th. We left feeling great about the Bike Gallery. </p>

<p>Well in the course of the next hour we couldn't find the restaurants they'd recommended or Molly Cameron's shop, even when I stopped someone on the street who'd just seen Molly riding by. We settled on a healthy salad at Whole Foods and kept up our record pace for talking. Sated we took one more crack at Veloshop before wandering back up the hill to the car and a run over to River City Bicycles. It took Carey at Rapha to get us turned around after we went the wrong way on MLK. She turned us around just shy of bike shops in Seattle.</p>

<h4>Spelunking for Bikes in River City</h4>

<img src="http://images.velodramatic.com/portland09/portland-9.jpg" width="550" height="825" alt="The gateway to heaven" style="display:block; border:none; margin-bottom:10px !important;" />
<img src="http://images.velodramatic.com/portland09/portland-8.jpg" width="550" height="367" alt="Scott meticulously sanding a Vanilla stem" style="display:block; border:none; margin-bottom:10px !important;" />


<p>This was my first visit to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rivercitybicycles.com/">River City Bicycles</a> and Brian's second. Slate had taken Brian straight there after he flew in Saturday to have his Portland Cycling visa stamped and to get a bicycle porn booster shot followed by a welcoming BBQ at Slate's house which resulted in a three alarm fire. <em>The lengths we go to to entertain visitors.</em></p>

<p>Suffice to say all the build up was entirely justified. What a shop. Everywhere you looked something special caught your eye. Colnagos (<em>mentioned first for Brian</em>), Cervelos, Specializeds, Cannondales, Serottas and Calfees, Sevens and Surly's. Edge Composites Wheels, Di2, Rapha, Shower's Pass, Campagnolo clothing... and that was just the first floor.</p>

<p>Upstairs, besides the working mechanics, a kid's section, a short test-ride loop complete with speed bump and trail chatter, the largest collection of stems I've ever seen anywhere... <em>it would legitimately qualify as a climbing wall</em>... and another two hundred bicycles. Seeing so many Cervelos in one place sporting their vastly improved 09 paint and graphics was almost too much.</p>

<p>Co-owner Mark Ontiveros spent time with us and had a very helpful associate Nathan walk us over to a secret underground cavern a block away where a warehouse of fully assembled bikes was lined up in row after row of 50' racks. There had to have been more than 500 hundred bikes on those racks, and two workstands were manned by mechanics hard at work assembling two more. <em>Remember the scene at the end of the first Indiana Jones film where they wheel the Arc of the Covenant into the warehouse... apparently that scene was filmed at River City. </em></p>

<p>If I'd had a cigarette I'd have smoked it, the sex was that good. Bravo River City.</p>

<h4>We Never Stopped Talking</h4>
<p>You'd think after all that Brian and I would have sat down, looked at each other and nodded off, but no, we easily managed another two hours of bike talk before I had to hop back in the car and head for the airport and home. </p>

<p>Super day. Special thanks to all we met in Portland, especially Sacha and Scott at Vanilla, Mark and Nathan at River City and Carey at Rapha for bringing us back before we made an episode of Ice Road Truckers. I was friendly with Brian before the trip but now I know I have a real friend on Isla. I'll turn up on his doorstep next time.</p>

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		<title>Interview with Enigma&#8217;s Designer, Mark Reilly</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 06:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>We're in the home stretch now. My Enigma Eulogy frame is packed up and in the capable hands of the men in brown, hopefully winging it's way to California for delivery early next week. As numerous posts have documented all the components (and some tasty options) are ready for the build. Mykle Kong, Tech Manager and Bill Ruffner, the owner of my LBS, <a href="http://sanjosetrek.com/index.cfm">San Jose Trek</a>, will both be taking part in a special build event I'm going to cover in words and pictures on Velodramatic. I think it will be fun and informative.</p>

<p>Jim Walker and Mark Reilly of <a href="http://www.enigmabikes.com">Enigma</a> were fully engaged and friendly partners from start to finish of the bespoke design process. Yes, there is no shortage of great builders here in the U.S., but if you want something a little less common on this side of the pond, you couldn't go wrong working with these two knowledgeable gents. Call Enigma... and Jim or Mark invariably answers the phone. <em><strong>From the US dial 011 44 870 874-6975</strong></em></p>

<p style="margin-top:40px;">Mark Reilly is regarded as one of Britain's preeminent designers and frame builders. His twenty years of experience and particular affinity for titanium's subtleties are at the heart of every Enigma. He kindly took some time out of his day to answer some questions about his beginnings/development as a bicycle designer</p>

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<p class="Ques">How did you choose bicycles (or did they choose you). Were you a racer, enthusiast or grow up in a family that rode bicycles?</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velodramatic.com/images/CB1938.jpg" width="364" height="274" alt="Claud Butler Ad" style="float:left; border:none; margin-right:10px; margin-left:-25px;" />Reilly. Bicycles chose me I think, I fell in love with them at school. My best friend was a racer and it rubbed off on me in no time at all. I am very mechanically minded and hounded my friend to sell me his bike, he gave up in the end, I bought the bike, a <a href="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nkilgariff/ClaudButler.htm">Claud Butler</a> 531, for £20.00 and there it started, it was stripped down in no time at all and painted (pillar box red) in the family garden the same day.</p>
<p>I did eventually race in my mid twenties winning only one race!</p>
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<p>How much riding and what kind of riding do you like to do now? Do you ride to work?</p>
<p>Reilly. I only test ride bikes at the moment but do plan to start riding regularly in the summer.</p>
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<p class="Ques">How did you begin your career as a bicycle designer? Did you come from an industrial design program or apprentice with other frame builders?</p>
<p>Reilly. I am self taught, straight from school I started building frames, its what I always wanted to do. A couple of years in I opened my first shop and was very lucky to employ one of the best frame builders in the world and of all time in my mind, <a href="http://www.veloworks.com/roncooper/index.html">Ron Cooper</a>. The shop closed after a couple of years due to a bad economic recession and I left the cycle trade and went to university to study electronics and mechanical engineering. At the time I designed and built a turntable and speakers and was going to market these but bikes drew me back and I left uni after only two months and was back making frames!</p>
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<p class="Ques">The first frame you designed/built couldn't have been titanium. How did you come to specialize in that material? </p>
<p>Reilly. At some point I was approached by a company called DNA and they wanted me as a consultant so we made a deal and formed a company/brand called Omega DNA. DNA were making MTB frames at a facility in Russia, they had no knowledge of road frames and so I came on board to handle that side of things. I went to Russia for a short while and saw how they made Titanium frames and gleaned most of my knowledge of the material and how to work it there.</p> 
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<p class="Ques">Where in Russia did you travel? Was there anything interesting about the Russian craftsmen... I've heard some of the Russian expertise with titanium came from work in the Soviet space and aircraft industries. Did Vodka play a role in the welding process?</p>
<p>Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod. The DNA plant was actually inside a submarine plant, it took an age to get permission to allow us access, we didn’t see anything other than the bike frame factory though. Vodka played a part in dinner in the evenings as the Russian agent gave us some local brew!</p>
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<p class="Ques">Is the recent emergence of the steel-frame Elite a return to your roots?</p>
<p>We have been making steel frames for Omega customers for quite a while now, people that have had my frames over the years and really love steel, so we thought why not bring a contemporary steel frame into the main range.</p>
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<p class="Ques">Who paints the frames for you?</p>
<p>The frames are painted by Dave Crowe at Colour-tech, I’ve known Dave 15 years, he’s quite a character and a brilliant sprayer.</p>
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<p class="Ques">At Enigma you have a production facility in Taiwan, how much hands on assembly, finishing do you do now? Again, is the Elite (steel tubes) a chance to keep your hand in on actual frame welding/construction.</p>
<p>Reilly. We do all the design work of course and final finishing such as bead blasted and polished logos. The Elite gets me away from the PC and a chance to be really creative whilst getting my hands dirty, there is something very special about actually crafting something.</p>
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<p class="Ques">It's been written that Sean Yates provided the inspiration for the Eulogy... how do you know Sean and how did that come about?</p>
<p>Reilly. Sean asked for a new frame and his needs were very simple, make it as stiff as possible, which it is and I also dialed in excellent road feel and comfort. I met Sean through a friend of mine Vic Haines. I knew that Vic and Sean were close friends and asked Vic to talk to Sean about me making him a frame. Sean said yes and the rest is history.</p>
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<p class="Ques">Enigma employs a variety of tube shapes and profiles... I suppose you've built up a deep understanding of how tube diameter, shape and wall profiles affect the resulting frame. When designing a new bike model, do you begin with a set of ride characteristics and then build towards that spec with a series of prototypes tweaking the tube combinations OR is your inspiration more visual/holistic and that ultimately dictates the ride?  At this stage how many prototypes does it take to arrive at a production model?</p>
<p>Reilly. I have built up a wealth of knowledge over the years, having built for many teams, Pro’s like Sean, National and World champions, I draw on this to create new models. The prototypes never need tweaking, usually we are confident enough to go straight into production! The visual side of things is of course very important, I always try to keep things very contemporary whilst at the same time adding a timeless quality, which is hard when you have to make the bike ride exceptionally too!</p>
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<p class="Ques">Cycling publications give Taiwan credit for some advanced technology when it comes to bicycle fabrication. The welds on Enigma frames are beautifully rendered. Are they welded by hand or robotically? Do you exchange information electronically from your software with Taiwan?</p>
<p>Reilly. All the frames are hand welded. I use my software to send all the building plans, the factory then produces an autocad drawing for us to approve.</p>
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<p class="Ques">The Eulogy and Effusion introduce carbon seat stays, chain stays (Eulogy) into the mix. How difficult was it to effectively mate the two materials? Since carbon forks are de rigeur, was incorporating carbon in the rear triangle a nod in that direction?</p> 
<p>Reilly. There is a special process used to mate the materials and it is hard to get the mixture of carbon and titanium right.</p>
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<p class="Ques">Which of the Enigma models do you ride yourself?</p>
<p>Reilly. Effusion when I can.</p>
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<p class="Ques">Which gruppo do you personally prefer and why?</p>
<p>Reilly. There is only one groupset for me, Record! It’s a dream to work with, beautifully finished and engineered. I am definitely a Campagnolo fan, always have been.</p>
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<p class="Ques">Jim's bicycle business experience runs deep, is it easier to focus you attention on design without as many business distractions?</p>
<p>Reilly. Its far easier focusing mainly on design.</p>
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<p class="Ques">Have you designed a unique "Enigma" for yourself, or your family?</p>
<p>Reilly. The <a href="http://www.enigmabikes.com/singlespeed.jpg">LAB single speed</a> I designed for myself to scoot around the streets of Brighton.</p>
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<p class="Ques">Without giving too much away... what's next on the drawing board for Enigma... you've done a cyclo cross LAB bike, any chance that might become a regular in the line up?</p>
<p>Reilly. I can’t say but we do have three new frames about to launch, Eikonic, Ethos and a very special limited edition, limited to 25 Worldwide.</p>
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<p><em>The Eulogy hasn't even arrived yet and I'm already intrigued to learn about the new Enigma models beginning with the requisite letter 'E'. thanks Mark</em></p>



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